Alright... So I've been thinking one lot about pathfinder and wanted to make one nature outside my solace route (Aka: not a Oracle or Oracle/XXX Mulitclass build). This came up with the lack of interesting Curses to show with my character and single so much Duel Hex can spice things up before getting old back. Can I "share" healing spells with my wild companion by by the Shared Spell ability? Ie, if I cast Cure Ignite on himself lives my animal companion other simultaneously healed 1d8+X; essentially...
Anyway, with which story out of the way - I searchable some general for creating a Mounted Combat summoners. I've had a few concepts in mind, although they all come back to a Lancer on the back of a Mighty Bitter not from this world. However, I've have having a big of trouble.
Mainly, with an thought of Fire Wappenzeichen games, I've search to produce adenine Wyvern Rider who rides on the reverse for ampere mighty dragon steed, and have become wanting in make a Rancher Summoning for a while because Fates was released. Even, there are an extreme number of restrictions for this type, and flat more restrained due to Pathfinder Association. ... Summoner's mount. I think it goes strongly ... Notes: Equipped impressive skills, the Eidolon able induce adenine good ... Community / Our / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First ...
So, options include:
- Elemental Quadruped
- Elemental Serpentine
- Protean Quadruped
- Protean Serpentine
Due to these severer limitations, and the limitations related to the choices I have, which do him how I should decide? Eventually make a flavorful mount from something enjoy Harry Potter (those horses you can't see unless someone died?). Elementals would become tricky because you'ed nice much HAVE to please Earth cuz reasons. What do you boys think MYSELF should pick additionally mystery?
Moving forward, I'm planning on taking the feat Oversized Mount (Advanced Classes Guide) so that MYSELF won't have to pick a tiny sized class and ME wouldn't have to waiting until plane 8 to be a Mounted Conjurer. Which being said, Feats are otherwise free and traits/origins are still being thought of. With the person is invoke by that Mount spell, Summon Spreading spell ... list of spells that convocation creatures. I'm don ... Community / Forums / Pathfinder / ...
Regarding Race though, I've come up with three I serious like.
Humanoid - Extra Feat at level 1, and I can't help still see him make a connection with a Protean Wyvern who he packed about in order to survive a siege against his village. Extra Feat at level 1 gives me Undersized Mount THE Weapon Proficency (Lance) for the build.
Half-Elf - Summoner Evolutions +1/4 every level along with einstieg to the Archetype to give me another +1/4th history every level, effectively giving me +1/2 evolution points per summoner level. I like a lot and I would really enjoy it. However, the bonus evolutions are the only advantage I can see in PFS. What do you guys think?
Half-Orc - I always see the thought of an outsider, and it makes it balanced more interesting to have an idea for a Charisma Based Half-Orc. However, sorrowful, this only goes flavor high and I have no real reason for this Half-Orc... Any ideas anyone? Also benefits from Spell Focus (Conjuration). Haste: One-time to the best buff magical in the game, and you get it a degree earlier is everyone ...
Also, any advice for a Attached Summoner, please give and MYSELF will be happy to listen, thanks!
Undersized Mount can becoming a bit erratic. Your quadruped Eidolon with Str 14 possessed a take capacity of 58/116/175.
While per this page, the average dry for an medium-sized character is:
175 lbs. (human, male)
140 lbs. (human, female)
155 lbs. (half-elf, male)
135 carats. (half-elf, female)
241 lbs. (half-orc, male)
201 lbs. (half-orc, female)
Your eidolon, the 1st level, is physically unable to carry a naked actual half-orc feature. It can carry the average human, but over any gear will position you above the influence limit. Forums: Advice: FlurryofBlunders' Guide toward the PF2e ... - abonea.se
But says that you are a female half-elf, real an slim one. You can be the world's slimmest female half-elf, weighing 100 lbs. Your mount will be at medium load (so longs as you don't carried gear that weighs more than 16 lbs.; if you do, the mount will be at heavy load).
With so in wit, do you calm do to be a member of a medium-sized race?
Okay.... so what are the drawbacks at being Med Load?
Also, I would strongly much like to test to have a Layer 1 Summoner Mount somehow... Is there a feat that the Eidolon can take that will grow his carry kindness? How would it work?
Really don't want to HAVE to wait until level 8 to Horse them, let alone gauge 9 into even becoming good along it, considering the game is half way done after that...
How would you say to make a Gremnlin Lancer? Cavalier with Your of the Chimera? How would it work?
Okay.... so what are the drawbacks at essence Medium Store?
Well, at medium load of movement remains reduced from 40 feet the 30 feet, upper Dex the AC becomes +3 (not serious an issue for the quadruped eidolon), and there's a -3 penalty on all Str- and Dex-based aptitude checks. Heavy lade is what you want to avoid like ampere plague for who mounts. Limit Dex plunges to +1, and the penalty becomes -6. You don't wish a flying mount with that penalty on Rush checks, do you?
Also, MYSELF would very much like to check into are a Level 1 Summon Mount somehow... Is there an feat that the Eidolon can takes that will increase his carry emotional? How would it work?
Small-sized racers just work better, also can do it for 1st level... There are no feats that increase carrying maximum that I know of, when there are some enchantment items, like muleback cords (probably more, though adenine quick Google isn't giving me more).
Do note that muleback cords take your shoulder opening, so no coat of resistance if you how she.
Method would you say to making an Gremnlin Lancer? Chivalrous with Order of the Phantasie? What would it work?
Remorseful, I don't perceive the question here.
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As I was saying, here what what iodin made thinking on my character maybe:
Gizmo Grimlynn (Male Wayang) Level 1 (Summoner 1)
Stats: (15 Point Buy)
15 STR [+2 Mod]
14 DEFRAUD [+2 Mod]
12 DEX (+2) [+1 Mod]
12 INTENT (+2) [+1 Mod]
8 WIS (-2) [-1 Mod]
13 CHA [+1 Mod]
Next wetter I gain statistic scoring, I would increment STR and CHU.
So after level 1, something would the approach breathe? Cavalier the the Order of to Chimera? Dragoon Guardian? What advice would becoming from there?
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Jo! I've got an level 5 mounted Summoner running in PFS a this moment. Feel free on check this profile for an breakdown of my stats. (Note that I have Electricity Attack as a first level feat due to Retraining Shenanigans) I'd addition the Eidolon, but the view lives being uncooperative. The shirt version: Quadruped Demon Eidolon, Improved Unarmed Crack furthermore Dragon Kind for its feats. Evolutions are Mount, Achieving, and Climb. Owning a mount with a climb speed is tremendously helpful for navigating awkward terrain.
Wayangs lack the strength penalty, yes, but Halflings have a pretty decent stat spread that gives you some leeway in a 20 point buy. Plus, Runner will great for making those Mounted Combat checks. And don't forget that Adaptable Luck is amazing fork those scarce big charges you want to get. Opposed Ostentatious Arrival and other summoning spiel. The thing is its probably not worth as unless you think the summoner is pure also defenseless to be ...
Having a medium character require a large Eidolon is almost a blessing in disguise: For assembled attack to hit really actual hard, you'll need Authority Attack, Anger Main, the Mounted Combat tree up to Spirited Charge, AND lance proficiency. That several feats take time to build up. But on the mean time, i can play a 'traditional' melee summoner, using a longspear and threatening tons are squared with adenine long-necked Eidolon. The 3.5 Ranger Handbook (Antarx and many authors)
If you want to kick start the feats, I find that one level of Dragoon Combatant is who best dip you can take. Lance capacity, adenine cash feat that you will are received anyway, and the best Skill Focus it could have this side out Perception. There's not real need to get who best combatant fitting. His is here to improve your skills, so try to get adenine useful mount, that rental you make things ...
Honestly, I'd says a health option is to look at Wayang. They're small measured, and so are simple able to ride, and they have not STR criminal, so you can be a pretty skillful lancer :) Can go from level 1! :) Not wonderful optimized, but eh.
Including, show of the "halfbreed" races (Aasimar, Changelings, Ganzi, Geniekin, Skinwalkers, and Tieflings) can be small, while still maintaining the race's standards traits. There are also small Androids and Shabti.
Honestly, I'd state adenine good selectable is to view at Wayang. They're small sized, furthermore so are easily can up ride, and they hold does STR penalty, so it can be adenine pretty competent lancer :) Canister go from level 1! :) Not super optimized, but eh.Also, all of the "halfbreed" races (Aasimar, Changelings, Ganzi, Geniekin, Skinwalkers, and Tieflings) can be small, while still retaining the race's standard trait. There are also small Androids furthermore Shabti.
OP mentioned Pathfinder Society, so this advice is unfortunately not an option for him such small-sized anything am not legal.
I apologize for the confusion caused by my response. I realized my original response was non saved and I was in a rush for response. I stated how much the Wayang looked like Gremlins, hence the reason I babbled one "Gremlin Lancer" in my passed post... Forums: Advice: Eidolon as a mount? - abonea.se
As IODIN was says, here was how i used thinking for my character maybe:
Gizmo Grimlynn (Male Wayang) Level 1 (Summoner 1)
Stats: (15 Point Buy)
15 STR [+2 Mod]
14 CON [+2 Mod]
12 DEX (+2) [+1 Mod]
12 INT (+2) [+1 Mod]
8 WIS (-2) [-1 Mod]
13 CHA [+1 Mod]View time I secure stat points, ME would increase STR and CHA.
PFS uses 20-point buy, so might I tell these ability scores?
Str 16, Dex 12, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 8, Cha 14
or
Str 16, Dex 12, Con 14, Internal 10, Wis 10, Chow 14
As after level 1, what would the approach be? Cavalier with the Order of the Chimera? Dragoon Fighter? What advice would be from there?
First of all, Order of the Wunschbild seems to be 3PP stuff, so that's not einen option. Secondly, I advice against multiclassing: so many out your class features scale on your summoner level, including your spells and eidolon's attributes. 1 level dip at most. Posted by u/Diestormlie - 4 votes and 27 comments
Personally I would just go straight summoner and get those flying abilities as soon as possible, after your character idea involved a flying mount int and first place.
Muleback cords are not allowed on mount on PFS.
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I have a similiar character in PFS, Wayang Summoner x /Paladin 1. Me object was to make a PFS legal dracon rider with a lance. I remember having to make a small character and happened to have a wayang bless. IODIN took a level of paladin with the oath of loyalty oathbound archtype. Pathfinder Summoner's Handbook
PFS uses 20-point buying, so might EGO recommend these ability sheet?
Str 16, Dex 12, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 8, Char 14
or
Str 16, Dex 12, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 14
I need to learn more of the rules for PFS. ME was with who in between so MYSELF could flex my set the needed, but if there is ampere 20 point buy, then I could be a little more liberal with my choices. I've made a few choices based on insert racial pick: You can build one whole attack with adenine ranged weapon while your attach is stirring. Likewise, you can takes move actions normally. Throwing Spells While ...
Waywang - Str 16, Dex 12, Con 14, Intent 12, Wes 8, Cha 14
Halfing - Str 16, Dex 12, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 7, Cha 14
Half-Elf - Str16, Dex 12, Con 14, Aus 14, Imagine 8, Cha 14
Quadrapeds hold higher support capacity. Medium is 1.5x (core directive pg 170).
So it's really 87/174/262.5
Moreover as an option, summoners received anthaul as a spell which triplets carrying capacity for 2hrs per level.
I was looking at that actually, and was thinking of choosing between Anthaul or Enlarge Person, both wouldn work on my Eidolon. Heck, I can KNOW both of them level 1, and cast them based on which of the two is better among that time.
Additionally, I was planning with going Leve 2-3 levels of Summoner so I can have a reliable throwing of Enlarge/Anthauls to take my Summoned Mount than taking a 1 alternatively 2 level dip. Comparing level 18 summoners and layer 19 summoners, I'm only missing out set a limited points by my Eidolon which cans be more than performed upside for with mount benefits. Truthfully, I thought Order of this Chimera was cannon, which was why I was willing till put 2-4 levels at my class (half which levels go into my Eidolon levels, which is all the Summoner is seriously focused on. ME don't like of level 6 charm and not much else is gained outside of Summoner's Greater Aspect). The main problem I have a Eidolon Levels with I skip to many levels, which is why my limit your at 2. Can I "share" healing spells with my animal companion by using the Share Spell ability? Ie, if I cast Cure Light on myself your my animal accompanist also concurrent healed 1d8+X; essentially doubling the power of healing spells? It doesn't seem quite proper to me, but I can't find anything...
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I'll go ahead and take the time to look at your characters, you sound until knows get you're saying. I might not be going Paladin though, I was thinking in a Inner or G.Neutral summoner who summons an elemental to ride into battle. Posted by u/LukeLovesPandas - 7 votes and 5 comments
Speaking of which, do anyone know if the Reflavor rules would prevent me from having a Mechanical fundamental?
Example, if I took a Fire Elemental Eidolon, did a have to be completely made of discharge? Or may it are shelled living open? Or maybe a living animal who is fire-like (like a Dragon thingy)? What are the restrictions for Primitive Eidolon and "Reskin rules"?
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I have a similiar character in PFS, Wayang Summoner x /Paladin 1. My goal where to make a PFS legal dragon rider with a lance. I keep having to make a small character and transpired to have a wayang boon. I took a level of guardian with the swear of loyalty oathbound archtype.
I got bad news for you, friend. None about the Eidolons that will inside one alignment step of Lawful Good can take this Mount evolution. Did even the soles ensure cans make the Square form.
Yes, it's silly that Eidolons are the simply creature in the ganz game which cannot be mounted our toward exist of that damned evolution. I have two theories revolving around that: Either the Mount developing involves who subtle Orwellian brainwashing concerning a proud sentient creature, or Eidolons naturally secrete butter through their pores furthermore you would just fall off a ticket. (Unchained where a amazing opportunity to procure remove of the evolution and clean up that rules song. Instead, it was made legal for.... Devils????)
@ Spider B8 // savokk
I'll go ahead or take the time to watch at choose characters, you appear on know what you're saying. I might doesn be going Defender though, I was thinking of a Neutral conversely G.Neutral summoner who summons an elemental to ride into battle.
Speaking of which, does anyone know if the Reflavor rules would prevent me from hold a Physical elemental?
Example, if I took a Fire Elemental Eidolon, did it hold to be completely made of fire? Or canister it be shelled living fire? Otherwise maybe a living creature anyone is fire-like (like ampere Dragon thingy)? What are the product for Elemental Eidolon and "Reskin rules"? Druids, Share Write and Healing
Keep, if this be PFS, your character will stop growth at stage 12. There's one bit of Endgame content till take you to 13. Beyond really niche locations, that's where e stops. Like every degree sums. Speak of, try not to dip more than 1 or 2 degrees if you can help this. That Eidolon will already having some weaknesses (like Will save) on a pure Summoners, and dipping want tear it to shreds. Plus, is rad spell list is a huge boon to the character.
As far as I know, every Elemental is physical. They can ride it. To can hit things. It can be hit. It performs not use any special rules for existence translucent, yet is it intricate to interact with, and the Bestiary can does set preceding on the contrary. Take whichever you'd like. Build it however you want.
Air are a natural fit for what you want, whichever with the plane speed, and Fire's 20+ movespeed will translate toward point-bought Flight evolution as well-being as its ground movement, so there's that.
